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Yeah this article focuses on value, and it does not, in isolation, lead to attraction in women, otherwise we’d just go out in the real world and hand out Resumes of all the cool shit we do/have done. Life is more complicated.

My overall point is, you could be the smoothest guy in the world, but if your life is value-less, then appeal would any girl see in that beyond the superficial?

I agree with Matt when he says that guys that lead great lives just need a bit of coaching in order to be really successful with women.

It’s the guys who come to us, who live with their parents, have no job, and are just ambling through life with no direction that have the most work ahead of them. Work that is way beyond, “Approach her, now approach her, etc” bootcamp style coaching.

Vincent Ng-Conversation Arts May 29, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I think it’s a great post because no matter where you are in your dating life, or if you have a girlfriend or if you’re married you still want to be able to provide value and be a producer. I think that often guys think that it only starts with dating but providing value is a way of life.

@David Black and @Matt Savage. Before I took my first dating bootcamp, everything else seemed in order. I was going out with friends, was reading a lot of different self improvement books, and had a pretty active social life. But learning to be attractive is the same as learning to do sales, it’s not always natural. But when both are done right, you are providing value for all the people you serve.

Great Post, I’ve just subscribed to your feed. Looking forward to all your future posts.

Vincent Ng-Conversation Arts
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